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• PARENTS ARE NOT HENRY CHAMLEY/CHAMNEY/CHAMBLESS & MARY MOOR

• PARENTS ARE NOT BENJAMIN KIMBLE/ELIZABETH COLE 

• PARENTS ARE NOT JACOB CHAMBLISS/ELIZABETH WELCH or JACOB CHAMLEE/ELIZABETH WELCH

• FATHER NOT NOT BORN IN PARIS

• FATHER WAS NOT ROBERT THOMPSON CHAMBLEE (esp with MARY JANE ARMSTRONG)--they lived many years later

• FATHER OF BENJAMIN W CHAMBLEE IS NOT GEORGE CHAMBLEE

• WIFE OF BENJAMIN W CHAMBLEE IS NOT NANCY ROE

• NO PROOF SARAH CHAMBLEE B. CA 1755 M. JOSHUA BURRESS IS A SISTER

• JAMES BOLTON'S WIFE IS A SARAH, BUT MAIDEN NAME IS NOT STRICKLAND

FATHER OF JACOB, ROBERT, ISAAC, GEORGE, JOHN IS....?

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Many reincarnations of the father of the above men exist on family trees and books. Many conjectures and a tremendous amount of misinterpretation of records. This will help you understand.

The truth is much time has been spent much time looking in Virginia and across the pond for years. Nothing substantial has ever surfaced. We always find people in the correct time period, but no proof of connections in America. We have looked at parish registers, probates, land.  We have collected names of all early immigrants to the early U.S. on boat lists, land lists, every list that so far has surfaced in early America and no connection yet known. Perhaps the records are not extant that have clues to earlier family.

 

In early Bertie County, NC Robert Chamblee (middle name NOT Thompson as so many people have it on their trees) petitioned for division of the county December 18, 1759, for shorter riding distances. He had obtained 100 acres on Chinkopen Neck. The county split in 1759. The courthouse burned 1832 and 1862 and with it some of our family records.

 

So who is the father of the men above? It's easier to determine who is NOT. Oddly, people will report their evidence as other people's family trees which have recycled the internet.

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THE PARENTS OF...

Robert Chamblee
Isaac Chamblee
George Chamblee

John Chamblee
Jacob Chamlee
ARE NOT...

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PARENTS ARE NOT HENRY CHAMLEY/CHAMNEY/CHAMBLESS & MARY MOOR 

Years ago we researched for a few years deep in records in Prince George County to determine if there was any connection and we could find none. We conjured a few times publicly back in the 1990's. DNA proves we are not related to the Chambless clan in this area. We have researched all over early Virginia, the trails is not substantive enough to find.

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PARENTS ARE NOT BENJAMIN KIMBLE/ELIZABETH COLE 

Kimble supposedly born 1770 (NOT OLD ENOUGH!!) in Pennsylvania. He died in Wayne PA. Geographically and date wise it makes no sense to make these people parents of the Chamlee/Chamblee group.

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PARENTS ARE NOT JACOB CHAMBLISS/ELIZABETH WELCH or JACOB CHAMLEE/ELIZABETH WELCH

Probably misconstruing Jacob Standley and Elizabeth Welch born elsewhere in North Carolina. This family researched early 1990's, they were in a county on the other side of North Carolina. No Chamblee/Chamlee by any spelling have ever lived in this county. By the way, no record actually exists of "a" Jacob "Chambliss" and Elizabeth Welch. No such people. Some people take this line back to Henry Chambliss/Mary Moor. Again, DNA proves we are not related to any Chambliss and Chambless people. 

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FATHER NOT NOT BORN IN PARIS

There is a Chambly in northern France. Our DNA match takes us to early records in Northern England via DNA not France. Je suis désolé les gens.

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FATHER WAS NOT ROBERT THOMPSON CHAMBLEE ( with MARY JANE ARMSTRONG)

Robert Thompson Chamblee born 1829, died 1899 in Anderson Co, SC. His father was James Burris Chamblee. People CHANGING the date of this couple to fit their narrative, but easily proven in records.

 

People are also saying Robert Thompson Chamblee/Chamlee b. 1719 in Ireland is the father. Unsure where this came from, but believe it's just taken Robert Thompson Chamblee/Mary Jane Armstrong and changing the dates. If you have proof, please send it on.

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FATHER OF ZADOCK & BENJAMIN W. CHAMBLEE IS NOT GEORGE CHAMBLEE

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Benjamin W. Chamblee born ca 1768 migrated to old Pendleton County (later Anderson County), South Carolina with uncles, cousins and neighbors from Wake County, North Carolina. Benjamin's father, Robert Chamblee, remained in Wake County, North Carolina. Zadock Chamblee born ca 1772 NC migrated with his cousins Benjamin, Uncle George and others from Wake County, NC.

In the estate papers of George Chamblee in Anderson Co SC, Benjamin W Chamblee is mentioned as a "legatee" which simply means someone who is given property in a will,  it does not designate relationship. Robert Chamblee's will names his son, Benjamin W. Chamblee/Chamlee (the only child given a middle initial). A land deed states "Benjamin Chamlee of Pendleton Co, SC to Robert Chamlee, 250 acres both sides of Snipes Creek beginning at county line." Zadock was co-adm. of the estate, but he is the proven son of Isaac Chamblee of Wake Co NC. (Johnston Co NC Deed Book E-2, p356, FHL film 19,219)

Aug 1813, Anderson Co, SC
Zadock Shamblee and Elisha Herron administrators of estate, Aug 1813, receipts dated 1814. Notes for cash by Zadock and Benjamin Chamblee. Estate sale, purchasers included: Sally Chamblee, Zadok Chamblee, Elizabeth Chamblee, Nancy Chamblee.
On 12 Aug. 1813 George Chamblee (Shamblee) dec'd, Inv. 10 Sep. 1813. 
Appraisers James Drennan, James and Thomas Burress. 
Adm. granted to Zadoc Chamblee and Elisha Herron, 
Paid Benjamin Chamblee a legatee. <----------where confusion began
Sale 1814, Sally, Nancy, Elizabeth and Zadoc Chamblee

(Ref: Columbia SC Archives, Anderson Co probate estate records, Roll C1135, packets 626-660, #653)

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WIFE OF BENJAMIN W. CHAMBLEE

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You will see "Nancy Roe" as Benjamin's wife. He indeed mentioned Nancy in various records but never Roe. Estate papers of Nancy's alleged father John Roe  and other records have not yet proved that this is Benjamin's wife. If you have proof of Nancy Roe, please leave email and let us know.

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SARAH CHAMBLEE, BORN ca 1755, marr JOSHUA BURRESS, NO PROOF SHE WAS A SISTER

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There are no extant records indicating how Sarah Chamblee fits in with Robert, Isaac, George, John, Jacob. They lived in a few counties in NC before migrating to Pendleton Co, SC, so one can perhaps "assume" a DNA connection.  Burris family reunion article states Joshua Burress married "Mary," thus possibly she was Sarah Mary, but then again oral history is often mistaken.

Ref: The Greenville News (Greenville, South Carolina) · Sun, Aug 26, 1928 · Page 10

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ELIZABETH CARROLL, WIFE OF JORDAN CHAMBLEE IS NOT THE DAUGHTER OF "CHARLES CARROLL OF CARROLLTON"

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Sadly I report that "Carroll" has never been proven as the surname of Elizabeth, wife of Jarred. Early researchers included the surname "Carroll" because Rotcher Portland Chamblee 1867-1900 compiled a remarkable genealogy book in the late 1880's, traveling, investigating, asking questions of relatives. "Elizabeth Carroll" comes from his book and probably true, but no proof so far.  Investigation of Carrolls in Johnston, Wake, Nash, Franklin Counties has not yet yielded an answer. 

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Elizabeth was NOT the daughter of "Charles Carroll of Carrollton," one of the signers of the Constitution. This connection is on a website or two with no documentation. Accomplished historians have researched this very wealthy and famous individual and definite family connections are known.

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Charles Carroll had a daughter Elizabeth Carroll born April 3, 1769, died Aug 7, 1869. Per census enumeration studies she would also be a tad too old for our Elizabeth anyway.

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HESTER/ESTHER WHO MARRIED ROBERT CHAMBLEE MAY NOT BE A WARREN

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Thirty years ago I began conjecturing about the possibilities of Robert's wife. I found two records, one a church record naming Esther Chamblee and the other a court record naming "Robert and Hester Chambley." I knew they married and began a family before they migrated to Wake County based on my timeline of events. I began "what if" and "maybe" based on records in Bertie County, North Carolina. I never did find an estate file or a marriage record or any reference to Robert being married to a Warren. In the will of Robert Chamblee he gives a middle initial to only one child, Benjamin W. Chamblee. Benjamin named HIS son Benjamin Warren Chamblee, ergo my hypothetical. 

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JAMES BOLTON b. ca 1738, wife SARAH STRICKLAND? --not at all--

In the early 1990's Carla Tate flew down to my home to learn about Chamblees and copy my documents. She also wanted me to instruct her on genealogy methodology. She comes via the Bolton connection to the Chamblees--three of James Bolton's sons married Chamblee girls, daughters of Robert Chamblee who lived nearby. Carla was set on finding the maiden name of Sarah. She told me she thought it was Strickland, but later rescinded her statement but not before it was all over the internet and in some books. A letter she wrote in 2009:

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James and Sarah Bolton were not Thanie Massey's parents. They were her grandparents. Her parents were Sherwood Bolton and Elizabeth Chamblee. Analysis of census records will show the different generations. Also, there is no proof that Sarah Bolton was named Sarah Catherine. I am the one that suggested that a number of years ago because of the names of some of the female descendants, and the person I suggested it to put it up as fact. . . .I spent 10 years trying to prove that Sarah Bolton was a Strickland, a daughter of Sampson Strickland. I even wrote a Strickland book with all the info I found, but I am now convinced she was not a Strickland. I had also theorized that maybe Sarah's mother was a Massey; there was clearly a STRONG connection between the Boltons and Masseys in several states. I also wrote a book on the Masseys in Wake Co. NC with the research I did on that. Unfortunately there are too many records that did not survive. . .   --Carla Tate

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SHAMBELLIE CASTLE, DUMFRESHIRE

 

Allegation: There is a Chamblee  Castle in Scotland.

Correspondence from Scottish Record Office to me in the early 1990's indicates there is a Shambellie Castle in Dumfries owned by the Stewarts of Shembellie whose papers go back to the 17th century [Ref: NRA(S) 272]. There is a 19th century mansion there, although there may have been an earlier fortification or castle. Reference the castle website.

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and this...

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Please note some errors in The Heritage of Wake County, North Carolina, p. 169 :  "The name of Chamblee is Norman origin and the Chamblees came into the British Isles and Scotland with William the Conqueror and gave lands to them in the above-named countries. To one Chamblee the land near Edinburgh, Scotland, was given, and and old Chamblee castle remains there to this day. The Chamblees are known for their red and black hair, musical ability, sense of humor, and cheerful outlook on life. Tradition has it that there were 6 brothers who came to America in the early 1700's. Four of these were in Wake Co, NC by 1780: Robert (Robin), Isaac, George, John (who spelled his name Shamblee), Jacob (who went to TN) and William." 

This has been proven to be somewhat in error, and the castle has nothing to do with us, it was built too late.

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NOTE THE MISUNDERSTANDING IN THE ABOVE ENTRY:

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1. Oral history is that "6 brothers..." is alive in the branches of the Chamlee and Chamblee family but the story differs. Some branches say the early roots were Scotland others Ireland, others say "maybe England." DNA has connected us to a family on the Scotland/England border (old Westmoreland County). Could these people migrated down from Scotland or over from Ireland, of course. More DNA needs to be done in the UK.

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There is documented proof that we were in early Bertie County, North Carolina. DNA proves we are not connected with the Chambliss or Chumbley families (Chomondeley is pronounced Chumbley in the UK). Early entries by our Chamblee/Chamlees in Virginia land or record entries have never been found.

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2. "Chamblees came into the British Isles and Scotland with William the Conqueror," No proof on this, just more hypotheticals, but DNA studies may or may not connect.

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3. "To one Chamblee the land near Edinburgh, Scotland, was given and an old Chamblee castle remains there to this day." Shambellie House was built by William Stewart (1815-74) and completed in 1858. NO connection to the Chamley, Chomley or Chamblee families at all, since we were on record in NC in 1744.

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4. "John (who spelled his name Shamblee)..."  The spelling  changed from document to document and in various generation and lines. Jacob ended up with Chamlee spelling, although some of his descendants flip flopped the spelling in some generations.

 

Do NOT get confused by the spellings, people were illiterate and in pronouncing their name may have changed it or the record keeper heard a name more familiar to them which would account for why we are listed as "Chamberlain" in NC and SC at least.

 

We do know that we link with Chamley or Chomley in old Westmoreland Co in the UK. Tracing them backwards has been challenging.

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Hope this helps!

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rev. July 2020

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